Why He does not call himself "Doctor" Murray and How Arnold Murray Asks for Money Every Day.

Hi, thanks for writing

Dear Paul or should I call you Saul?

Call me whatever you like, I'm used to being called by new and interesting names.

I do believe Murray called
> himself a doctor at some time because he acquired a doctorine in
> studying the scriptures of the Bible.
> I do not know what it takes to call yourself a doctor but he does now
> call himself pastor Murray. Probably not to prove he has a doctorine
> in the study of the Bible but
> to appease the people who want to find fault in his very extensive
> study of his many years of devotion to Our Father. I am a novice in
> learning, a catholic born Christian

While I was studying with him, he called himself Doctor, he printed it on his own tapes, I really don't care what he is. I have no degree of any kind. Arnold Murray is the one who is obsessed with credentials.

It is very likely that he didn't earn credentials, but people kept asking for them. That is the way people are, they believe in authority and respect "credentials." But instead of boldly, as he often says, letting his "ability to teach" be his credentials, Arnold Murray decided to falsely claim the title "Doctor" which he had never earned except in his own mind and in the eyes of his admirers.

The very fact that the stopped using the title is all the proof I need to see that he was never a Doctor, because if he was a Doctor he would just tell him where he got his degree and put the matter to rest, but instead he became defensive and hid behind a cloak of "my private business." Which is ridiculous because he is teaching publicly and was calling himself a Doctor publicly so he ought to publicly be willing to confirm his doctorate. Put up or shut up, as they say, well I guess we see that Murray decided he had to "shut up" since he could not "put up" so he stopped calling himself a Doctor.

Like I said, it is nothing to me if someone has a degree, I don't value those things, but Arnold was using a title and then stopped after people started snooping around trying to see if he actually had one. He probably thought he deserved the title because he had studied long enough, and that may be so, but he should have just said, that was what he believed. "I'm a doctor because I judge my knowledge to be sufficient to give myself that title." Of course that would make him appear very arrogant, and that is exactly as he truly is.

> I only see him as a person who has studied more than most on TV,
> asking for no money,useing
> his own to continue his ministry in probably he has spent most of his
> life believing in.

Arnold Murray asks for money EVERY SINGLE DAY. You have fallen victim to his reverse psychology. He SAYS, "I never beg for money" but he asks for money every single broadcast. "If we have helped you please help us keep coming to you." And between the teaching and question and answer period he is always asking for donations for tapes or CD's. He is not selling a product. He is ASKING FOR A DONATION. He does not use his own money to support the ministry. The Shepherd's Chapel is a multi million dollar operation. But he does not take money for teaching, no, but "as president of this network" is he not entitled to his salary.

Arnold Murray is a classic double dealer. You can't judge him by the face he shows on TV or by his deceptively crafted and misleading statements.

There is nothing wrong with taking donations or even for getting paid to do God's work ( but I don't get paid, I'm the one who spends his own money to support my ministry) But Arnold Murray routinely criticizes other teachers for becoming wealthy from teaching, do yourself a favor, go to Gravette, look at Arnold's car, look at his house, and then realize that this man has done no other work for decades other than teach the bible and run the Shepherd's Chapel Network. His sons also work there. He is getting the money, count on it. There is nothing wrong with it besides the fact that he deceives people into thinking he does not get "a dime" from the ministry. What he means is that he does not take money, on the record, for teaching the bible, but that leaves other dorrs wide open.

Can you show me another who is more intelligent
> and knowledgeble in the Bible?> Their are not many.

Yes. I can show you a better line by line, bible teacher who is far more intelligent and knowledgeable and works for free.

http://oraclesofgod.org/studies/studies.html

You asked for one, I gave you one, listen to some of the teachings and tell me I'm wrong.

Ask scholars a direct question of information on
> the word and they have a vague and different opinion of what is
> correct.

Arnold Murray answers questions on air but he never takes the time to rally answer people's questions as I do. I also allow for follow up questions.

I know pastor Murray is an honest straight forward person.

How do you know that? Because you saw him on TV? Because you have uncritically accepted his words? I know he is NOT.

> Kind of funny in his deliverance of speech but never has a bad word
> to say against any person of origin. Show me something to the
> contrary and I believe I will have a response to bend your mind.

I'll look forward to that. He has definitely been critical of other people. This is just more double talk.

Dr. Murray says he does not criticize other ministries. But he only does not name the false teachers, he names the doctrines. But if you see anyone who teaches the rapture, you know that Arnold Murray teaches against that ministry. Arnold mostly says this to shield himself from critics. He makes the very act of criticizing him a sin. And it is a lie.

The idea that it is wrong to be critical is irresponsible and dangerous. As if neglect of duty is a virtue. It is the duty of faithful men of God to point out false teachings and false teachers. What kind of perverse wisdom would say that it is more important to protect the wolves from detection than the innocent sheep from being slaughtered? The people must be warned. I really don't care if a wolf in sheep's clothing like Arnold Murray is offended when faithful men point out their false doctrine.

Jesus Christ appointed Paul, an Apostle, and the Apostle Paul definitely calls out people, by name, who were erring concerning the truth. He called them out by name in order to warn people, so they would know who the wolves in sheep's clothing are.

2Ti 15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

It is not a sin to name an enemy of the Gospel. Throughout the bible false teachers and prophets are named, or they are place in that category by the flase dotines they teach. It is no virtue to hide the identities of false teachers. I don't care what Doctor Murray does, if he wants to play that way, then fine, but it is his doctrine, not Christ's. The Apostles and the Prophets and all the scriptures name the enemies, so do I.

In some cases, the false teaching is so widespread it does not make much sense to single out one person who teaches it, such as the rapture, there are many that teach the rapture so singling out one teacher is not as effective as saying, "The rapture is a false doctrine," in that case all you have to do is see that someone teaches the rapture to know that they are a false teacher. This is part of the hypocrisy of Arnold Murray. He does not name the false teachers but he sets it up for them to name themselves false teachers, he has plenty to say about people that teach the rapture and it is very critical. But since there are thousands who teach it, it makes little sense to start listing names, this is very convenient for him.

In other cases of false doctrine, (Such as with Arnold Murray), there are not many teachers who teach the doctrine, so it makes more sense to name the men since 99% of people don't follow the doctrines Murray teaches. It is because his doctrines are very personalized, and his ministry a cult of personality, that it becomes necessary to single him out personally as the one responsible for the false doctrine.

He says he never criticizes anyone, but he means, not by name, not on the air, he is constantly critical of other ministries and their works. Then he makes the very act of criticizing him a sin, whether the criticism is valid or not. (He actually did criticize someone, by name, one time, on the air,that I know of; he read an article by a, "Revolving Rev," titled, "Sometimes it Pays to Obfuscate") This is just another one of his false doctrines.

Sincerely,

Paul Stringini